Prisma Health is a huge healthcare system that dominates a good part of my home state, South Carolina. It certainly is the primary healthcare force in the upstate and the center of the state around the capitol, Columbia. It generate $5.7 billion operating revenue
I call this the American Version of Legacy Med 2.0, the Late Stage Sickness Seeking Profiteering Kabuki Dance Theatre Sponsored by the Medical Industrial Complex Paymasters! 💯%!
Absolutely. The healthy care system does not want you to understand, basically, anything. You're focussing, this time, on charges. But in general - they don't want you to understand.
Well it’s pretty pathetic when we have an entrenched groups spreading disinformation these days. All of this garbage leads to disease progression, excess cost, illness and death. I truly think people want reasonable, common sense care and we currently have the most expensive wasteful greedy system in the world. We lack kindness, care, and compassion these days. We have more robots and AI that determine so many decisions these days. I totally agree with all you say, I have hope, but we are up against something ugly.
These organizations have billions in revenue. They are very powerful and connected. We need to vote for people who are serious about healthcare reform. Our families could be healthier longer, but our current system will not get us there.
The cost is $4 trillion dollars, plus another $4 trillion to cover the aftermath of the failed “system of care.” It is an eight-trillion-dollar boondoggle. It is a bloody, deadly, and extremely costly kabuki dance theater!
The $100 million dollar 12-year long “Ischemia” trial has definitively concluded that the coronary interventions do not contribute at all to any benefit to long term outcomes when contrasted to the conventional conservative medical treatment. It reproduces the “Courage” Trial’s results. To add the insult to injury, 13-15% from both arms of the trial suffered MACE including untimely death. What do the operators of the med 2.0 do? They continue to push coronary artery interventional surgeries, stents, angioplasty, and etc. purely for the profit. The system it corrupt to its core!
You are absolutely right. They are extremely powerful but healthcare is like water or electricity. It is an essential service and it should be these services are owned or heavily regulated by the people they serve to assure good service and a reasonable price. The Germans have employer sponsored health insurane run by elected representatives from the employee and employer force. They set the priorities and they can access all the data. The live longer for just over half the cost. That model seems much better. German primary care is still in small independent offices. What we have is only working for the big insurance companies and hospital systems.
Very well stated, Bill. What is called for are law suits by the injured parties (employers, employees, and health plans) when the laws for disclosure of prices are broken and/or ignored by the hospital systems.
i quoted Christin Deacon because she is one of the leading experts on these laws. She says the suits are already coming. Other leaders think these laws are the best tools we have ever had for making progress. I am already working with people who can provide an aligned third party administrator. We can go into the claims data and use robust analystics to clear everything up and achieve transparency with a dashboard for the employer. We can see the detail on the charges by site and service.
The situation WILL change. I have hope more people are waking up. I hobbled around on a broken femur hip ball joint for a week and a half last summer because going into a hospital was a very frightening thought due to current conditions. It did subsequently turn out ok. My local very small hospital did the surgery and it helped many of the staff knew me personally. I felt safer.
I read your articles religiously and always enjoy them. Today’s article is what it’s all about. Oddly enough, Wendell Potter’s article today points out that there’s a factor that we don’t think about in discussing the disfunction of our healthcare system: the bottom line is that these organizations (hospitals, insurance companies, and pharmaceutical companies) are publicly owned. Therefore, they have to make a profit. Actually, a big profit in order to satisfy Wall Street and the stock owners. So, this adds to our disfunction in that not much is going to change. By the way, my understanding is that only 20% of the hospitals have posted their prices. The reason: the fine is only about a million dollars…chump change to most hospital systems. As a result, it’s cheaper to pay the fine, than pay for the programming that they would spend on producing that information for the public. Even so, the files that they have posted to their websites are useless to consumers because we don’t understand what we’re looking at.
I call this the American Version of Legacy Med 2.0, the Late Stage Sickness Seeking Profiteering Kabuki Dance Theatre Sponsored by the Medical Industrial Complex Paymasters! 💯%!
Absolutely. The healthy care system does not want you to understand, basically, anything. You're focussing, this time, on charges. But in general - they don't want you to understand.
Should we even call it “ health care” speaking here as an RN. All of this breaks my heart. The stories I hear daily.
Agreed. It's one of those names that has been taken in part to fool us.
Well it’s pretty pathetic when we have an entrenched groups spreading disinformation these days. All of this garbage leads to disease progression, excess cost, illness and death. I truly think people want reasonable, common sense care and we currently have the most expensive wasteful greedy system in the world. We lack kindness, care, and compassion these days. We have more robots and AI that determine so many decisions these days. I totally agree with all you say, I have hope, but we are up against something ugly.
These organizations have billions in revenue. They are very powerful and connected. We need to vote for people who are serious about healthcare reform. Our families could be healthier longer, but our current system will not get us there.
Nope it will get us sicker and faster. I am beginning to think it’s intentional
Read Rob Lustig’s book “Metabolical.” He describes this deadly kabuki dance theatrics as a fifty years of wild goose chase! I agree 💯%! 👏👏👏😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣
Totally agree. I have hope for the common good. 😀
The cost is $4 trillion dollars, plus another $4 trillion to cover the aftermath of the failed “system of care.” It is an eight-trillion-dollar boondoggle. It is a bloody, deadly, and extremely costly kabuki dance theater!
The $100 million dollar 12-year long “Ischemia” trial has definitively concluded that the coronary interventions do not contribute at all to any benefit to long term outcomes when contrasted to the conventional conservative medical treatment. It reproduces the “Courage” Trial’s results. To add the insult to injury, 13-15% from both arms of the trial suffered MACE including untimely death. What do the operators of the med 2.0 do? They continue to push coronary artery interventional surgeries, stents, angioplasty, and etc. purely for the profit. The system it corrupt to its core!
They are gaslighting so they can continue plundering.
This is a problem of the scale of the tobacco or gun lobbies, and will require significant money and lots of support. But it can be done.
You are absolutely right. They are extremely powerful but healthcare is like water or electricity. It is an essential service and it should be these services are owned or heavily regulated by the people they serve to assure good service and a reasonable price. The Germans have employer sponsored health insurane run by elected representatives from the employee and employer force. They set the priorities and they can access all the data. The live longer for just over half the cost. That model seems much better. German primary care is still in small independent offices. What we have is only working for the big insurance companies and hospital systems.
Very well stated, Bill. What is called for are law suits by the injured parties (employers, employees, and health plans) when the laws for disclosure of prices are broken and/or ignored by the hospital systems.
i quoted Christin Deacon because she is one of the leading experts on these laws. She says the suits are already coming. Other leaders think these laws are the best tools we have ever had for making progress. I am already working with people who can provide an aligned third party administrator. We can go into the claims data and use robust analystics to clear everything up and achieve transparency with a dashboard for the employer. We can see the detail on the charges by site and service.
The situation WILL change. I have hope more people are waking up. I hobbled around on a broken femur hip ball joint for a week and a half last summer because going into a hospital was a very frightening thought due to current conditions. It did subsequently turn out ok. My local very small hospital did the surgery and it helped many of the staff knew me personally. I felt safer.
Janet-I share your faith and that is why I keep fighting for alternatives.
I don’t think they want this cat out of its bag.
I read your articles religiously and always enjoy them. Today’s article is what it’s all about. Oddly enough, Wendell Potter’s article today points out that there’s a factor that we don’t think about in discussing the disfunction of our healthcare system: the bottom line is that these organizations (hospitals, insurance companies, and pharmaceutical companies) are publicly owned. Therefore, they have to make a profit. Actually, a big profit in order to satisfy Wall Street and the stock owners. So, this adds to our disfunction in that not much is going to change. By the way, my understanding is that only 20% of the hospitals have posted their prices. The reason: the fine is only about a million dollars…chump change to most hospital systems. As a result, it’s cheaper to pay the fine, than pay for the programming that they would spend on producing that information for the public. Even so, the files that they have posted to their websites are useless to consumers because we don’t understand what we’re looking at.
Thanks Dan for you comment. This adds a lot to the discussion